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Haha thanks everyone!

Aecioo posted...

Your baby can't sit down and appreciate cool hand luke?

I asked what he thought of Unforgiven and he just blinked at me and puked. No appreciation for fine cinema yet.

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Moops?
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Just as a heads up, we just had a baby not that long ago and my "sit down and seriously watch a movie" time has gone to zero. Feel free to keep tagging me as I'm still interested and I'll catch up on the movies I can when I can, but also feel free to skip me in the rotation and I probably won't be voting for a while since I cannot guarantee I can watch the movie that week anyway.

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Moops?
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I feel like theres 25 other teams in the league that would kill for the problems the Ravens have.

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Moops?
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Cutler was absolutely better than the shell of Andy Dalton.

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Moops?
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As someone literally at the same spot you are, I am still interested in Chris hot takes.

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Moops?
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Oh duh. Oops probably should've kept reading!

I don't have hoopla but The Love Witch is a definite yes. I'd probably be fine with Synchronic as long as hoopla is free but I dunno how that one works.

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Moops?
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I do! But none of these are on kanopy are they? Unless I'm not reading them right.

Snake5555555555 posted...

OK here we go:

The Love Witch (2016, Pluto, Vudu, Crackle, Prime, Sling)
Synchronic (2019)
Man Bites Dog (1992, HBO Max)
Antrum: The Deadliest Film Ever Made (2018, Tubi, Vudu, Prime)
Wild (2014)

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Moops?
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Man Bites Dog looks like the only one I can stream so thats my vote!

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Moops?
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I think I can easily steam Badlands and North by Northwest from my super quick search so those are yeses. If I missed any easy steaming feel free to switch those to yeses as well! No order for me.

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Moops?
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Warren is for everything she should be for and is like, at absolute worst, the fourth or fifth best senator we have. It is dumb (in my opinion of course) to rake her over the coals because you don't like her personality. I actually agree her attacks on Bernie were dumb but I've long since stopped caring (but in full disclosure she was my first choice in the primaries with Bernie as my second) about something so trivial.

My issue isn't that the farthest left on Twitter is attacking her on this, it's that from my experience they attack her more than they do most republicans even though they agree with her on like 99% of actual issues. You can't bring up Warren without dozens of snake meme responses popping up in the mentions, which is absurd.

And I think I've said before I'm totally "whatever" on Tanden and actually do think she is among the worst of Biden's nominees so this isn't even me agreeing with her on Tanden here.

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Moops?
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I think I'm a yes to all of these? They all look streamable to me! I have no order, and whatever everyone else wants is fine with me!

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

The far, far left's hate boner for Warren (who is only far left I guess) is so bizarre to me but whatever at this point. I'm not re-litigating why Warren is a great for the twentieth time and I'm assuming both sides have already made up their mind regardless.

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Moops?
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masterplum posted...

Do you really think Bernie would have a higher approval rating than biden? Who currently disapproves of biden are you expecting to flip over? Biden currently has something stupid like a 98% approval among Democrats

Umm...all leftists?

You can argue that this is a smaller population than moderate democrats, but there are plenty of voters that love Sanders but hate Biden and similar politicians.

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Moops?
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Hunt For The Wilderpeople

This I thought was really funny. Like easily above Thoroughbreds (which was sadly the last movie I watched for this) which was more sporadically funny. This was pretty hilarious throughout. I laughed out loud multiple times, even at some stuff that probably seems relatively minor. The lady confusedly asking "Jesus?" in the church twice, or Ricky trying to heat up that water pack over a fire only to have it burst and douse the fire, or Ricky and the child welfare movie arguing about who was the terminator, there are a lot of scenes that made me laugh here and not just smile. The whole first three quarters of the movie I'd say was consistently great and I thought the writing here was excellent.

I also really, really liked the casting. The main two, of course, but the entire cast here was great, even the small roles. The priest or the hunters or the child welfare lady or the cop, there really wasn't a weak casting in the entire bunch. A lot of really good, comically well time performances here. I was a bit surprised after the opening scene because I thought this was going to have a low budget feel to it, but it really doesn't. It was very well directed too, and well shot. I thought it did a nice job handling the heavy scenes that were mixed throughout to without suffering from tonal whiplash. I guess I would say the death of the dog felt a bit out of place as it didn't really serve any sort of purpose at that point in the film other than "uh oh we need another heavy scene to balance out the fun we're having". Still, it really is one of those movies that you could describe as a "feel good" comedy as much as I hate to use that phrase. I just think it really applies here quite well.

In terms of complaints, I thought the final act was much weaker than everything that preceded it. Not that they didn't know how to end, specifically, but more so that they didn't know how to make it end funnily. It didn't have nearly the same impact as the rest of the movie, and after a pleasant surprise of Rhys Darby showing up, the rest of the movie is sort of just a car chase and the predictable resolution. The movie was also probably a bit formulaic overall, but that I didn't care as much about because I was having fun along the way.

Very good film, and funnier than I was expecting. Definitely an easy, feel good sort of comedy even with some occasional dark bits. Worth watching, easily.

In Bruges - 9/10
Hunt For The Wilderpeople - 8/10
Thoroughbreds - 7/10
Mother - 5/10

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Moops?
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Ive heard literally nothing about that, but Illinois democrats did just end cash bail which Im pretty excited about.

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Moops?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

https://twitter.com/westonpagano/status/1363849276066004993?s=21

It was yesterday but still

Why remind me of this you MONSTER?

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Moops?
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79310930

Since I'm running out of space here!

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Moops?
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I think it is a testament to the writing in this game that all the ranking lists I've seen are so markedly different. Like no two people are going to relate to the characters in the same way. Things that stuck out to me might not stick out to other people, and I like that about the game. But yeah, I've seen a lot of rankings recently and I would say most of the characters I place in this tier are probably controversial. I seem to hold some overlapping beliefs with the Danganronpa fan community at large, but I was also shocked that some of the characters I did not like are some of the favorites and some of the ones I like were actually considered the bottom tier by most people.

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Moops?
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Unfortunately, we dont get either of those things. We dont even get a fun resolution to his tension with Hiyoko because she dies too soon. Thats another possible interesting arc that winds up getting cut short, and what Fuyuhiko is left to do is a lot less interesting than what I thought might happen. He justsort of exists. There is a redemption arc here on the back end of things, sure, but it is ruined by a couple of factors. First, as I mentioned above, I absolutely hated his character for the first two chapters, and he had reached such a nadir I wasnt really willing to give him a second chance. He had spent the first two chapters being absolutely miserable, so why would I possibly root for him to get redemption? All things considered, he was a terrible human being. Hes the leader of a violent crime gang and responsible for the murder of a high school girl before the game starts. And then he tries to murder a second and is only saved from doing so by Peko. His defense of just wanting to talk to Mahiru is complete bullshit, by the way. He drugs Hiyoko and orchestrates the two of them coming at different times and he hides the baseball bat on the scene. Him straight up lying to us with a jeez guys I just wanted to talk is a lie and Im not even sure he believes it himself. He tries to kill Mahiru in that scene because she basically tells him murder is bad and he shouldnt have done it, and he responds by trying to commit a second murder. He doesnt deserve a chance at redemption because he is seconds away for killing Mahiru for an incredibly dumb reason. Then when hes not plotting to actively kill someone, he snarls at us and is just generally a shitty human being long enough for us to form a lasting impression of him. And, after all of this, Im supposed to root for him? Im supposed to be ok with him after everything hes done and after the writers essentially spent two chapters goading me into hating him? No, no I dont think I will. Thanks for the offer, game, but Ill continue disliking him if its all the same to you.

And, more importantly, I dont think the back end of his character arc is all that interesting. Peko gives him a second chance at life, but the game doesnt really have him do anything with it. Sure, hes nicer to everyone now, but without his little dog snarl hes just sort of boring. I wanted him to actually do something or make some grand stand or contribute in some major way, but the grand sum of his character development seems to be he isnt a complete asshole to everyone every chance he gets. Like, he isnt some super altruistic amazing individual. Hes not the heart of the group. Hes not inspiring people to greater things. Hes literally just not threatening to kill everyone because hes SUCH a big tough super strong guy seriously guys I swear. It is the absolute least you can do as a human, and Im not really all that interested in him behaving sort of like what a halfway decent individual acts like. It would be like if someone spent the first two chapters kicking puppies, and then at the start of chapter three resolved to stop kicking puppies. Great. But Im going to be more attached to the non-awful people that werent kicking puppies in the first place.

Also, just throwing this out there, hes kind of shitty towards Peko all things considered. I know a lot of this has to do with his responsibilities of being a yakuza, but Peko is so beaten down by her role that she has a terrible understanding of herself as an individual. She sees herself as nothing more than a tool for Fuyuhiko to use as he sees fit, and he is at least partially to blame for that. I know he struggles to get emotions out, but it is very clear that up until the very end here, Peko barely views herself as a human. Fuyuhiko is trying to get her to understand, but he obviously doesnt do enough and it winds up getting her killed because of it. This is someone that is 100% devoted to him in every possible way and loves him unconditionally and he cant even manage to blurt out hey youre important to me before it is too late? So many things here couldve been avoided if Fuyuhiko could just be open with his feelings. I know he feels regret for it and he is at least trying to get Peko to understand this by the end, but he is also directly responsible for both Mahirus and Pekos death, and his lackluster face turn at the end of the game isnt enough to make me forget that.

So Fuyuhiko has a lot of stuff working against him, in my eyes. He has one amazing scene and then a whole game worth of content Im honestly not that interested in. His final farewell honoring Peko at the end of the game was nice too, I suppose, but beyond that and the end of the second case, I really wasnt interested in his character. He spends too long being awful, and then his turnaround at the end isnt enough to atone for all the stuff I had to put up with earlier. He isnt funny or fun or interesting or even all that remarkable. Hes kind of dull, honestly, and in a game full of characters with big, unique personalities, Fuyuhiko post-trauma is just kind of a guy. I hate him prior to the ending of chapter 2 and was completely indifferent about him afterwards. He has a bad personality and then he basically has no personality. It was so dull, that by the end of the game I kind of wished he kept his heel personality. Sure, I didnt like it, but at least I felt something for it. By the time he saunters across the finish line, all I really felt for him was apathy.

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Moops?
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#33: Fuyuhiko Kuzuyru
Main Cast (Male) Ranking: 13/16
Survivor Ranking: 10/11
Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Yakuza
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Boss Baby Stunt Double

This probably isnt all that much of a surprise if you were reading along. I was going through my thoughts earlier today and I had forgotten I had given Fuyuhiko his own tier for most of the game in terms of who I wanted to see die. What I do remember, however, was every chapter dreading who was going to die and hoping it was just Fuyuhiko so I wasnt going to be emotionally traumatized. This is the second straight game where the character I was hoping would die made it all the way to the end, so I may just be cursed. When I play V3, I will be sure to pretend that whoever my least favorite character is actually my favorite as that seems to be the only hope I have for killing off all the bad characters I secretly want dead.

Fuyuhiko has two distinct personalities here, one before and after Peko dies. If we were dealing solely with the one before Peko dies, he would probably be a bottom three character for me. Fuyuhiko comes off as a fake tough guy, a petulant child trying his hardest to act like an adult and failing. He is the embodiment of that scene in The Lonely Islands Threw It On The Ground song where Andy Samberg is screaming IM AN ADULT and it is somehow even less believable here. It is kind of strange that he is the Ultimate Yakuza, because he comes off as one of the least threatening characters in either game. A big talker, sure, but he never comes across as doing anything tough. There is a reason to be intimidated by Byakuya or Nagito or Mondo or Sakura, but Fuyuhiko never gives us a similar reason. He never seems to do anything tough. He is the Ultimate Yakuza and all he does is murder one high school girl before the game starts and try to murder another while the game is going on. He doesnt come across as a threat early on in the game. He comes across as a joke. An annoyance. A seven year old who googled murder and now is trying to convince you that hes totally going to do it.

Fuyuhiko isnt a fun threat like Nagito is, because you never really think Fuyuhiko is going to do anything. He just comes off as obnoxious and every time he was saying something I was wishing he would be the next one to die so I wouldnt have to deal with his bullshit any longer. Oh yeah Im TOTALLY gonna murder comes off the same way as that one kid from your high school who TOTALLY had sex with his Canadian girlfriend who goes to a different school. It felt like some middle schooler was trying to bully me now, and he has neither the presence of design or personality to feel like a genuine threat. He is instead just a yippy dog where his bark is much bigger than his bite, so much so that the actual threat to him is the full-time bodyguard that follows him around at all times and is like ten times more badass than he can ever hope to be.

Really what winds up saving him from the lower tiers is one phenomenal scene, and that is the ending of case two and Pekos execution. The whole ending to that scene I thought was very powerful, and I loved the back and forth between Peko and him where they are both struggling to get out their emotions as Pekos time runs up. I loved Fuyuhiko running to be by Pekos side, trying to do anything he can to save her. The ending was great and sad and brutal, and it is actually pretty amazing all things considered because the game was making me feel things for a character who up to that point I absolutely despised. And it isnt as if his character doesnt have the potential to be interesting, and I at least understood the design here. You can very clearly see he has an inferiority complex because of his size and how he looks and is trying to overcompensate for these things as much as he can. But, again, knowing this didnt make my time with him early on in the game any more enjoyable. Every single thing he said annoyed me up until the end of chapter 2 and I was genuinely excited for a moment when I thought he wound up accidentally executed.

There were actually two times where I thought Fuyuhiko might die, and I think I wouldve liked his character arc a lot more if he did die at either of these spots. First was the chapter 2 execution where he gets swept up with Peko. He does technically harbor some of the guilt here for the murder as Peko only kills Mahiru to save Fuyuhiko from himself. And he sets the entire thing up and is seconds away from doing it himself, so I wouldnt have been mad if him running headfirst into the fight got him killed as well. It really wouldve wrapped up Peko and Fuyuhiko almost perfectly, especially considering the emotional scene we had previously. I actually would have really like that and a capstone for that case. Like, make two small changes there and that ending is even better. Remove the weirdness with Monokuma pulling Pekos strings and just have Fuyuhiko die. Then they finally confess their feelings for each other, fight to get to each other, only for Peko to accidentally kill Fuyuhiko in the chaos. Then, overcome by what shes done, she allows herself to be killed by the Monokuma soldiers. SO MUCH DESPAIR.

Alternatively, he was also my secondary suspect for case 3, which I thought wouldve been interesting as well. If he had orchestrated injuring himself to get into the hospital at first to scope things out and then volunteered later to guard the hospital just so he could pull off his murder, I think that wouldve been a much more satisfying conclusion to his character than the whimper he sort of went out with. He clearly loves Peko and she was the one thing tying him to this place. If they needed someone to go crazy and remember stuff, I wish it wouldve been Fuyuhiko as I think that wouldve been a much more fun twist to that case than what we actually got. That wouldve been a much more fun misdirect than Mikan gets killed because Monokuma rolled the who goes crazy wheel and thats who it landed on.

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Moops?
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Was Aoi Asahina nominated? Shes the vowel-iest character I can think of.

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Moops?
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Up next: a character who would've been up an entire tier if they died when I thought they were going to die

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Moops?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Setting aside I literally laughed out loud at the but usually accurate part, her tweeting four times more than Trump is not the issue hereshes a bad person.

So what you're saying is...progressive hero Joe Manchin strikes again!

FFDragon posted...

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1362515223886848003?s=19

eat the rich

I wonder if this whole debacle is enough to actually shift Texas blue or at least closer to an actual toss up? I'd say probably not because they'll just find a way to blame the democrats, but if anything might make Texans be normal for even a little bit, it's this.

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Moops?
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xp1337 posted...

House was never gonna drop it. The issue is if it survives the Byrd rule in the Senate (that it conforms with the reconciliation requirements that it relates to the budget.)

Biden has said he doesn't think it does (but last I checked has maintained his support for a $15 minimum wage in general, he's just skeptical it can survive reconciliation). I had said beforehand that I don't think the parliamentarian will let it survive. But I know the CBO scored it before which might give it a lifeline and I think that's the angle Sanders is currently taking. Hopefully it works but I would not place money on it. But I want to be wrong.

Sanders has basically indicated he's going to try his damnedest to get it through the process, but I'm not supremely confident he's going to be able to. I wouldn't say I'm pessimistic per se, but I'm kinda like 60-40 on it surviving so I wouldn't be totally shocked if it gets snipped out. We'll see, I dunno.

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Moops?
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xp1337 posted...

Bleh decision by Manchin but not even #1 on my power rankings of "ugh manchin decisions of the past 24-36 hours"

that spot goes to him meeting activists for a $15 minimum wage and telling them to their faces he opposes it and prefers $11

Gotta pray that it survives the Byrd rule and the parliamentarian because I'm pretty damn sure he won't sink the COVID bill over it but he seems to be making it pretty clear he won't accept it stand-alone.

This is essentially what I'm worried about too. I do not think he torpedoes the entire COVID bill over it as he is for most of the stuff in there and is even for an increase of the minimum wage. But it is also clear that if something happens and it becomes a standalone thing, it is doomed.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I will say it would be pretty shitty of Manchin if Bernie votes to confirm and Manchin does not

Otherwise I don't care much either way

Yeah if I'm being 100% honest I'm kinda annoyed but mostly apathetic on it? But again, I totally agree that if Sanders basically goes "eh she's fine" then Manchin bringing up how she was mean to progressives seems disingenuous when he's really just voting against her because she was mean to republicans.

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Moops?
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Is this when it matters? Tanden is horrible.

It is worth noting that Sanders was going after her pretty hard too during her confirmation hearings. I think he was planning to confirm her regardless but Tanden was always the nominee most likely to run into trouble, I thought.

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Moops?
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He cites her attacks on republicans and progressives, but if I had to take a wild stab in the dark he almost certainly cares more about the former than the latter.

In good news house has unveiled its COVID bill. Still $15 minimum wage. Everything looks pretty good. Expected to get to Biden by March 15.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/19/politics/house-covid-minimum-wage-bill/index.html

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Moops?
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/19/politics/joe-manchin-neera-tanden-confirmation-biden/index.html

Neera Tanden isn't getting confirmed.

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Moops?
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#34: Monomi
Supporting Cast Ranking: 6/8
Ultimate Ability: She doesnt have one
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Walmart Brand Knockoff

I dont know what the most disappointed I was by some revelation in the Dangaonronpa series, but I know a top ten moment for me was when I realized Monomi was an all game character and not a prologue only character. When Monokuma showed up my first thought was oh no killing are about to start followed immediately after by oh well at least I wont have to deal with Monomi anymore. But, oh how wrong I was. OH THE DESPAIR. Little did long ago Suprak know that Monomi was basically going to be around for the entire game, being every bit as annoying and cloying as she was in the opening. Junko truly is a master of despair since she knew keeping Monomi around would make things truly unbearable.

The easiest way to describe Monomi is intentionally annoying. The closest comparison I could think for Monomi was Claptrap from the Borderlands games. She is a character that you can tell almost instantly is meant to annoy you and boy does she succeed on that end. Literally my first thought after hearing her voice for the very first time was oh Im going to haaaaaaate this character. So the game definitely gets the intentionally annoying part right, if nothing else. But heres the thing about inetnionally annoying characters: theyre still annoying. The fact I am supposed to be annoyed by Monomi doesnt make the annoyance Im feeling any more bearable. If a restaurant intentionally gave me food poisoning, I wouldnt later be vomiting everywhere and thinking well they certainly did a good job giving me food poisoning, if nothing else!

For the early portions of the game, I think my general sentiment towards Monomi was I dont get what the hell this weird rabbit is doing here, and Im annoyed. But then when I finally go to the end of the game, and understood what Monomi was and what her role was in the school, that sentiment changed completed to I get what that weird rabbit was doing here, but Im still annoyed. It is like she was specifically created to be annoying, and I have no clue why Makoto and friends made the guidance role to be as obnoxious as possible. If you guys were trying to make the characters all form good happy memories, one thing you shouldnt include is an annoying animatronic rabbit that wants to talk about love love and spout these weird cloying catchphrases that look like they belong on the most boring 30-year-old moms Instagram account.

Her interaction with Monokuma is alsostrange. She plays this weird comic relief slapstick sort of character, which is bizarre in retrospect because you would think she should be absolutely mortified that all these students shes supposed to be protecting are getting murdered in front of her. The tone between her and Monokuma stands out to me as being especially weird in a game full of weird things. They kept doing these weird little comedy bits in between the murders, and the biggest issue is none of them were really funny. I love the fact that Danganronpa as a whole is weird as hell. Thats one of the primary draws. But a lot of times it just felt like they didnt quite know what to do with Monomi, so shes stuck trying to force some humor in situations that dont really work. Danganronpa does a great job balancing comedy with dark subject matter, but it almost always feels organic with the scene and fits into the bizarre and wonderful style of the game. With Monomi though, things always felt forced to me. Like the writers were like oh shoot we need to get Monomi to say something. She was integral because of the overarching story, but they couldnt work her into dialogue in a good way without tipping their hand too much, so instead were stuck with all the worst comedy bits crammed into one character.

There are a couple of things about Monomi I did like. First, I liked how everyone else hated her. That was cathartic to me. Shed show up on screen and Id be like oh fuck its Monomi and all of a sudden Akane or someone would be like oh fuck its Monomi and Id feel a bit closer to the main cast because of it. Also, her finally standing up to Monokuma at the very end was pretty cool. She does it like five chapters too late and spends most of the game pathetically whining about how she cant help and paying the Laurel to Monokumas Hardy. Shes just kind of there most of the game, so when she shows up and actually starts trying it is too little too late, but it is at least better than too little too never.There does seem to be some genuine concern for the students here, which is nice to see, but it wouldve been better if it was packaged into a character I didnt hate. Oh, and her finale against giant AI Junko was pretty cool and was one of the better animated sequences in either game. So there are little things here and there about Monomi I dont hate, but overall she is a character I wish I could forget.

I think what best sums up my thoughts on Monomi is that I was only really tangentially aware that she died. Like, I saw her in Chiakis execution and knew she was getting blown up and gobbled up and smushed, but the fact she wasnt going to be really around any longer wasnt something that fully processed to me. Chiakis untimely death was such a fucking gut punch that Monomis death was completely overshadowed to such a point that I didnt even really care that she was dead. It is basically like if you go to the best steakhouse in town and order a filet mignon and also a stick of slightly chewed celery. One of those things is so much better than the other that the other might as well not even exist. Ive experienced a lot of feelings to deaths in this series. Sadness and relief and joy and disgust and of course DESPAIR. Monomis was the only one where I felt absolutely nothing at all. It was barely even a blip on my radar, eclipsed by something so much greater. And in the end, that really is a fitting ending for Monomi. She dies like she lived: essentially ignored so you can focus on the much more interesting and important stuff going on around her.

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Moops?
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And with that we move on to a new, slightly better tier! While the last tier was characters I actively hate and will talk shit about every chance I get, this next tier is just characters I don't particularly like. So we are now entering the Drinking Almond Milk When I Thought It Was Supposed To Be Regular Milk Tier (a.k.a. the "I don't particularly like these characters but I could at least understand how some other people might" tier). There is usually at least some things I like about these characters, but honestly they tend to get lost under the title wave of annoying nonsense they make you deal with. When I was ranking these characters, I was tempted to slot them into the Scrappy Doo Tier but then I would think "well they had that one part I liked" or "that scene was interesting" so there is some redeeming value here.

I anticipate getting yelled at a couple of times for these rankings, but WHATEVER MAN.

M&M In A Bowl Full Of Skittles Tier:
40) Toko Fukawa
39) Ultimate Imposter

Scrappy Doo Tier:
38) Teruteru Hanamura
37) Natsumi Kuzuryu
36) Hifumi Yamada
35) Sato

Drinking Almond Milk When I Thought It Was Supposed To Be Regular Milk Tier:
34) I will not be getting yelled at for this character ranking, though, except maybe that I ranked them too highly.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

That one did make me laugh out loud.

This one is also probably just me, but I had taken a little break between the deadly life of chapter 3 and the trial. And then the trial opens up with "who is girl A" "who is girl B" without giving me any sort of context. Like...hey, game. Give me a quick flashback or something. You love those.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Yeah meat on the bone is to swimsuit full of gravel as a leaky pipe is to your house getting hit by a tidal wave.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

This is a great tragedy because it means that Natsumi and Sato do not get the hate they rightfully deserve.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

#35: Sato
Supporting Cast Ranking: 7/8
Ultimate Ability: No Clue
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Self Incriminater

The main reason this list is up to 40 characters is because of Sato actually. After checking the obvious supporting characters I needed to add, I was going through my head of if there was anyone else I wanted to talk about and Sato jumped out immediately. So to make things a bit more even (and since I didn't want to just do all the most important characters + Sato) I decided to go up to 40 and see who else I could find. So you have Sato to thank for the extra spots!

I wanted to talk about Sato is because Sato might be the single greatest moron in the history of these games. She isn't as annoying or off-putting or frustrating as some of the characters that placed in front of her, but there also isnt anything I particularly like about her, so she winds up all the way down here in 35th place, which is really impressive because some of the characters coming up that I don't like were around to annoy me much longer than Sato. She really makes the most out of her ten minutes of screen time though, doing just about everything wrong she can. Like, when I was doing my actual playthrough I had to cut like half the stuff I wanted to say about Sato being a moron because I realized I was just rambling and it probably wasnt going to be fun for anyone to read. Thats right around when the dread of oh no this game might not be as good as the first started to sink in for the first time, and I was mildly afraid of driving everyone away by complaining about something I knew they all liked. But now you suckers have already read all my important thoughts so I can give Sato the burial she rightly deserves.

I know what some of you are saying. "Who the hell is Sato?" Well for those of you who haven't played Danganronpa 2 recently or have photographic memories for random side characters that have like ten lines of dialogue, she is the moron who kills Fuyuhiko's sister because she is bullying Mahiru and winds up getting killed herself as part of the Twilight Syndrome Murder Case. At best, she is dull. You have to go around identifying who everyone is and everyone else has a distinctive personality from the game, so the one boring odd woman out has to be Sato. She doesnt have too many lines here, and the extent of her character is telling some really bad and obvious lies about how you cant go to the police because thats just what the killer (who is SUPER DEFINITELY not me guys) would want. I am annoyed how much time the chapter spent on this aside in the first place, and it doesnt help that Sato comes off about as bland as you can while youre stuck interacting with her.

I dont rank her as low as Natsumi because at least Sato doesnt seem like a completely terrible person. She is at least acting out of defense of Mahiru, which is a better character trait than being a sweaty pervert or an incel serial killer. But shes dumb. Mahiru makes it pretty clear she didnt ask for this and Sato is acting on her own accord her. Also, I know Natsumi is a terrible person, but the line from well Im going to bully you too now to choking someone out and murdering them by beating them with a swimsuit of gravel seems just a tad extreme. Like maybe get a teacher involved first before you jump right to murder. I want to protect my friend is noble. I will beat this girl to death seems slightly less so even if the victim was Natsumi (who, as you might have guessed from my rankings, also sucks). But even for as bad as Natsumi is, this sort of thing is horrifying and you cant just go around murdering people. Thats kinda the point of these games. Well, unless youre Toko I guess. Then you can murder people and no one really cares so long as you arent actively murdering someone at this very moment.

Her methodology also makes no sense, and I hold this jerk directly responsible for what is probably the worst piece of evidence in either game. Shes lucky there are other characters I truly despise in these games, because the individual responsible for the swimsuit full of gravel clue deserves the very bottom spot on this list for that alone. Even ignoring that though, I have no clue what she was doing here. Why did she have to break the vase in the next room over if she already broke the window? Why did her friends hear the vase break but not the window when it was literally one room over? Why even beat her to death when strangulation was working just fine and seems like a pervert-y kind of way to kill someone in the first place? Why even tip over the fishtank? WHY ANYTHING? WHAT IS GOING ON? SATO NONE OF THIS MAKES ANY SENSE. And then I have to spend half of the trial solving this? No, fuck you Sato. I dont want to solve your shitty crime. All I need to know is the motive here, the rest is utterly pointless. The second chapter here is not my favorite, and I place a large part of that blame on Natsumi and Sato being awful.

But really what gets Sato placed all the way down here is the way she winds up getting caught. Her whole plan is like eight different kinds of stupid, but not "placing incriminating evidence within five feet of the brother of the girl you murdered, who also happens to be the head of the yakuza" stupid. The scene is so tremendously stupid it is legitimately funny. She takes the photo from Mahiru, walks over to a completely empty trash pile, carefully places it on the ground, and walks away. Fuyuhiko (who had to be within eyesight of her) walks up and just grabs the picture. I get that she's still in high school, but you at least have to be not so dumb that you just put damning evidence where people who might want vengeance can see it. Maybe this will get elaborated on a bit more in Danganronpa 3 so Sato doesn't look like the absolute dumbest person in the whole wide world, but at least based on this game alone Sato comes off as a complete buffoon. And you can argue that Monokuma was simplifying things for the sake of his game or it left out details, but the general point of her essentially handing over evidence that she murdered a member of a yakuzas family seems pretty undeniable.

I would also argue that Sato is directly responsible for at least Mahiru, Fuyuhiko, and Peko all getting swept into Ultimate Despair. I don't know exactly how it will be detailed in the anime, but when I was trying to figure out why some of these characters got recruited, I saw a pretty direct line for those three from the events in the Twilight Syndrome game. It is actually interesting how much overall impact this completely minor character had on the overall plot of the series if that is the case, and a huge chunk of Ultimate Despair likely gets recruited thanks to Sato. All Sato had to do was not be driven to murder as a 15 year old girl and it wouldn't have ruined the lives of like five different people. Congrats, Sato! That's some extraordinary failure for someone your age. Maybe your ultimate ability was ultimate fuck up everything for everyone always.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Oh cool. I can just pull from my "to watch" list. Then my five recommendations are:

Dolemite Is My Name
Marriage Story
Okja
Hell Or High Water
Hunt For The Wilderpeople

First three on Netflix, bottom two on Hulu.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

I think I'm below the 50% threshhold so I'm not sure if it is fair for me to recommend? I can if you want but I haven't re-watched Fargo yet!

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Coming up next: an impossibly stupid character who does something impossibly stupid

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rush-limbaugh-mock-aids-gays/

I would love to get an audio compilation of this just so I could post it every time I see someone disingenuously pearl clutching over how mean us liberals and leftists are.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

kateee posted...

have you seen it before?

Yep but I was hoping to rewatch it anyway because I quite enjoyed it. My pre-rewatch rating would be a 9/10 but I was curious if I'd feel different now after a rewatch.

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Moops?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Speaking of things he doesnt want: $15 minimum wage :/

https://twitter.com/phlbolshevik/status/1362053543142846470?s=21

Yeah, that's a big "yikes" from me.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Dammit.

I appear to have been an idiot and the Fargo that is on Hulu is the tv series, not the movie. I could've sworn I checked to make sure it was the movie, but I must've made a mistake. Welp. I have a DVD copy of this film, so maybe I can try to find that tonight.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Teruteru at least had the decency to die early. Like Anagram said, I was shocked Hifumi made it as long as he did. When I did my playthrough topic he was ranked dead last at the start of every chapter he was in just because I was sure they didn't have anything else for him to do or say. Outside of his weird fight with Taka in chapter 2, all he did was yell about how 2D made him horny.

Oh and when I rewatched his free time events, he also takes the prize for "most boring set of free time events" in either game. He has one that is literally dedicated to how much he wants Diet Coke.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Well I'm pretty sure he can't do the second two through executive order, right? I haven't seen any legal argument for that, at the very least.

I'm assuming he'd reassess the student loan forgiveness depending on what happens, but it is already planned to be in the COVID relief bill from how I understand it. Someone can feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on either of those points!

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Moops?
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HashtagSEP posted...

His position was always 10k, so it's not a case of him going down. He just doesn't want to go up for whatever reason.

His full position is 10k forgiveness, making community college free for everyone, and making 4 year colleges free for any family making under 125k. He appears to prefer to do it through legislation he signs into law rather than executive order.

All good things, but as you and others rightly point out, he doesn't really have a good reason for capping it at 10k other than going "nuh uh don't want to". I'd say his plan is "good" but not great and the democratic leadership is already behind the great plan. 50k would provide so much relief for so many families and 10k likely won't help as much.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Chicago - Cell Block Tango

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

I will say, before closing this very gross and lumpy chapter of Danganronpa character rankings, that Hifumi manages to rank above everyone else listed so far because there are a couple of things I dont completely hate about him. Like I said, he long overstayed his welcome but if he was a chapter one victim then maybe his weird nerdy outbursts wouldnt have been as grating. And, more importantly, the first time I played chapter 3 and got to that image with him being assaulted by Voltron, I did literally laugh out loud. It is just such a weird, unexpected picture and the comedic timing of it is great because of how Celeste is building it up to you. So to see Hifumi struggling against Optimus Prime with this panicked look on his face was so fucking weird that I did audibly laugh. And then, when watching the playthrough of the first game, I laughed again. So he has one shining moment in his entire miserable existence, and thats at least worth something. Of course, it is part of perhaps the stupidest plot in Danganronpa history and ultimately leads to his death, so maybe I dont want to give him too much credit on that one.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

#36: Hifumi Yamada
Main Cast (Male) Ranking: 14/16
Victim Ranking: 11/12
Killer Ranking: 10/11
Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Fanfic Creator
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Lumpy Virgin

Ive seen a lot of Danganronpa ranking lists lately, and I feel like this is my least controversial opinion. I have not seen one list that has Hifumi high on it, and that is because Hifumi sucks. He is one of the most consistently annoying characters in either game, and if evil scientists had experimented for years to try and come up with some way to make people hate Danganronpa, Im not sure they couldve done a better job than Hifumi. There are a couple of segments with Hifumi that I dont completely hate, but for the most part Hifumi is this unfortunate combination of pointless and annoying and he doesnt really add anything to the game other than being a gross pervert.

I really struggle with just about every scene that has Hifumi in it, because I simply do not care about what Hifumi has to say, ever. Its rough, because no matter what you are talking about, he finds a way to bring it back to his own stupid shit. You ever have a friend that clearly just wants to tell you a story and theyre like oh speaking of pants here is this one time I rode a motorcycle and I was wearing pants at the time no I wasnt just trying to have any excuse for a segue. Every single thing that gets brought up inevitably is somehow brought back to his love of 2D female characters or fanfiction or Princess Piggy or taking first place in competitive getting people to hate you competitions. He literally will not shut up about how much he loves 2D. There are parts where you are in a trial, fighting for your lives, mourning over the death of one of your friends, and Hifumis addition is like ANIME TITTIES. Having Hifumi around is essentially no different than carrying around an alarm that periodically lets you know it has never had sex before. Like everything minutes the alarm goes IM A VIRGIN or every thirty minutes Hifumi goes I AM ONLY ATTRACTED TO 2-D!!! and it basically accomplishes the same goal here.

His character design is also just kind of gross. It was almost certainly intentionally so, but intentionally gross is still gross and I think of all the characters in either game, I like his design the least. He looks like a lumpy garbage back that someone stuck two toothpicks on. Like an evil wizard brought a bean bag chair to life and cursed it to never have sex. I remember seeing his character design and just thinking oh this guy isnt making it through the game. Not just because everyone was going to want to kill him, but because I didnt think his heart could take it. Hed be the only character in Danganronpa to die of natural causes. A huge sticking point in Chapter 3 of the first game is the fact that Hifumi is so fat that it shouldve been impossible for anyone to move him and honestly if you die and your friends first thought is who had access to the industrial strength equipment necessary to move the corpse? then they probably have already been planning for your funeral for some time. It is like the developers wanted to make the fanfic character look as gross and unlikeable as possible. Which, like, sure, but at the same time I feel like that is unnecessarily mean.

But thats not even really what Im getting at when Im talking about how little I like the actual artistic design of the character. His face is justdumb. Like he has this big dumb ugly face and I hate looking at it. He has this weird cat or walrus design in the face area and at times he only looks vaguely sort of human. His pose where he is turned to the side and his tie is flying up in the air has to be my least favorite character animation in either game. And then his horny face animation is almost just as bad. Him drooling and sweating is not really an image I ever wanted to see. I just sort of hate most of his animation. His standard animation isnt terrible if they were just going for a stereotypical geek/nerd, but I feel like they didnt put as much thought into animating him as they did some of the others. Like, they just wanted to make him look as bad as possible, and by that metric I guess they succeeded.

Also, and this has nothing to do with his ranking, but literally until I was writing this I thought he was the Ultimate Fanfic Author. Like, as in he wrote fanfic. Apparently in the Japanese version he was the Super High School Level Fanzine Artist, which is something totally different. It is weird that they changed this, because I dont think Fanfic Creator really means quite the same thing. Like I literally just finished watching a walkthrough for the game and thought the same thing. I dont think the game quite details exactly what the hell it is Hifumi does unless I was just trying my best to ignore him, which is strange because everyone elses talent is laid out with extreme clarity. It almost feels like they didnt care enough about Hifumi to detail his backstory all the way through, and if thats the case, hey I get it. Knowing that he draws fanfic rather than writes fanfic doesnt change my opinion of him at all, other than making his obsession with loudly yelling out about how he is only attracted to 2D women all the creepier because it makes it sound like he now draws things he masturbates to.

It is also unfortunate that at the points where Hifumi actually does have sort of meaningful impact on the story, it is almost consistently awful. His weird fight with Taka over Alter Ego is dumb for several reasons, but it is especially dumb from Hifumis perspective. This is the one thing that they thing can save them, the dying act of Chihiro that might actually help them escape, and he jeopardizes the whole thing by being obsessed with a computer program with a face. At least for Taka it makes sense. Take uses Alter Ego to see the face of his dead friend and try in some desperate fashion to have some sort of connection with this person that died in front of his eyes like a day ago. Hifumi uses it because 2D girls make his nether regions feel funny and he cant reach them himself without some sort of broom handle. Hifumi is so pathetic he is willing to risk everything so he talk to an AI about anime. He comes off as even more annoying than usual, and I have never wanted to punch a video game character more than when he squels like a pig when Kyoko is yelling at him.

Hes also a moron and might legit be the dumbest killer in either game. He is so easily manipulated by Celeste to do something that doesnt really make sense. I at least can kind of see why he thinks hes doing the right thing, and lashing out at Taka because he thinks he stole Alter Ego and also abused Celeste and was threatening her is a bit more noble than some of the other motivations in the game. But his stupid obsession with Alter Ego blinds him to the fact that Celeste is very clearly manipulating him, and this whole thing couldve been cleared up by the crazy idea of talking to literally any one else. I do love that his stupidity and obsession with being the ultimate dweeb winds up sinking Celeste because of how he insisted on making this bizarre stupid robot costume no one but him wouldve made and he makes like twenty different mistakes in carrying out the plan. It would be like if you got partnered with someone for a science assignment and your partner ate the paper and doused the lab in gasoline. Him killing Taka also straight up sucks because I feel like Taka hadnt finished his character arc yet and it just kinda got cut short because Hifumi is a big dumb fat jerk.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."

Up next: the star of one of my favorite pieces of Danganronpa related artwork

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Moops?
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Anagaram posted...

Yeesh all these Toko haters

Men of culture, as we like to be called.

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Moops?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

You think winning the vote to allow witnesses and then not bringing witnesses was a good move? All to get one statement on the record?

I disagree.

Also, I don't think Democrats are to blame at all, I think they handled it terribly--an important distinction.

I dunno I guess Im just...not mad with the democrats or Biden at the moment? Like I think plenty of good stuff has been done the past couple weeks and like 20 Republican senators were refusing to even listen to what was going on so again I dont blame democrats for that.

I fully anticipate being mad at them in like two months time but at least for now I think this is all better than I expected honestly. Last time I spent time hand wringing over Manchin he went ahead and surprised me like a week later so Im at least going to wait for shitty stuff to happen for me to get mad.

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Moops?
"I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion."